On Apr 9, 2014 8:33 PM, "Gergo Tisza" <gtisza(a)wikimedia.org> wrote: locally at https://en.wikinews.org/wiki/Category:Non-free_media , https://en.wikinews.org/wiki/Category:CC-BY-NC-SA-2.5 and https://en.wikinews.org/wiki/Category:Non-commercial . know of any tool which would give these numbers cross-wiki, though. Shell script on toolserver querying all the dbs would probably be pretty easy. As for metadata similar to commons - almost certainly not. Especially on smaller non english wikis. -bawolff

Dear Jean-Fred, Laura, Gergo, Brian and Nemo, Thanks so much for your helpful answers to this question! Nemo, your wikistats link is particularly useful, and suggests that about 15% of files on Wikimedia files may be stored outside of Commons, which is significant (3M out of 23M total). I would be grateful for any URLs that would make it easy for us to test Media Viewer performance on the largest sites that have that practice of local hosting (e.g. English Wikipedia, who else?). Laura, your URLs of local files on Wikinews is exactly what I’m looking for on other sites, thanks. A casual check suggests that these files open in Media Viewer, but their metadata doesn’t display, which could be due to Wikinews using a different template than Commons. So my next question to the group is what you think can be done to encourage communities like Wikinews to consider adapting their templates to match the Commons more closely? Otherwise, their local images will not be as useful in Media Viewer. This may not be all that big of a change, and we can document this more specifically, but could use some help from community members to figure out practical solutions for updating these local templates. What do you think? Thanks again for all your help with this project. Fabrice On Apr 9, 2014, at 11:54 PM, Federico Leva (Nemo) <nemowiki(a)gmail.com> wrote: On Apr 9, 2014 8:33 PM, "Gergo Tisza" <gtisza(a)wikimedia.org> wrote: Shell script on toolserver querying all the dbs would probably be pretty easy. As for metadata similar to commons - almost certainly not. Especially on smaller non english wikis. -bawolff On Apr 9, 2014, at 4:33 PM, Gergo Tisza <gtisza(a)wikimedia.org> wrote: On Apr 9, 2014, at 4:16 PM, Laura Hale <laura(a)fanhistory.com> wrote: On Apr 9, 2014, at 4:13 PM, Jean-Frédéric <jeanfrederic.wiki(a)gmail.com> wrote:

On 10 apr. 2014, at 23:55, Fabrice Florin <fflorin(a)wikimedia.org> wrote: In many cases a good well prepared call for action is all that is needed. Explain, what needs to be changed and where. For that last part, we could identify all the categories on wiki's that we think identify license templates, then rank the templates that are 'most used' and give the wiki's trough village pump messaging a list so that they can fix it pre launch. I'm positive that would have a big impact. The call for action can also be integrated right in the UI post launch, where MMV can say "Unable to show all information for this image. Please report this image to the community". What is left after that, is probably not worth investing time in, until the time that we have true structured metadata. Also important, we need a good cross wiki meta tag for fair use. (and figure out what to do with those in MMV). DJ

On Sat, Apr 12, 2014 at 5:26 AM, Derk-Jan Hartman &lt;d.j.hartman(a)gmail.com&gt;wrote;wrote: There is a tutorial (although probably not a user-friendly one) at Multimedia/Media_Viewer/Template_compatibility<https://www.mediawiki.org… . Not sure how we can tell that there is information that we can't display, unless we just show this for every image which does not have a compatible information template. Images that are uploaded to other places than Commons will not have structured metadata. (Not in the foreseeable future, at the very least.) Non-free images usually have a license-like template (such as {{ Non-free_fair_use <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Non-free_fair_use>}}), that can be marked up as a license template so it's displayed by MediaViewer.