Thanks. 7-9% of responses on Wikipedia Zero being WAP is pretty substantial.
On Tue, Sep 10, 2013 at 2:01 PM, Andrew Otto <otto(a)wikimedia.org> wrote:
These
zero.tsv.log*
files to which I refer seem to be, basically Varnish log lines that
correspond to Wikipedia Zero-targeted traffic.
Yup! Correct. zero.tsv.log* files
are captured unsampled and based on
the presence of a "zero=" tag in the X-Analytics header:
http://git.wikimedia.org/blob/operations%2Fpuppet.git/37ffb0ccc1cd7d3f5612d…
Do I understand correctly that field as
Content-Type?
Yup again! The varnishncsa format string that is currently being
beamed
at udp2log is here:
http://git.wikimedia.org/blob/operations%2Fpuppet.git/37ffb0ccc1cd7d3f5612d…
On Sep 10, 2013, at 4:25 PM, Adam Baso <abaso(a)wikimedia.org> wrote:
Somewhere in between, I think.
Wikipedia Zero's main extension, ZeroRatedMobileAccess, relies upon the
mobile web's main extension, MobileFrontend. Wikipedia Zero access is
served across [
lang.].zero.wikipedia.org and [
lang.].m.wikipedia.org.
As I understand, the general Varnish logs capture both the Wikipedia
Zero-based and the non-Wikipedia Zero-based mobile web access. These
zero.tsv.log*
files to which I refer seem to be, basically Varnish log lines that
correspond to Wikipedia Zero-targeted traffic.
Wikipedia Zero for the mobile web will in all likelihood have a higher
rate
of WAP device usage and WAP content served when
compared to the general
Wikipedia for the mobile web stats. It's likely that, to at least some
extent, that higher WAP usage in participating Wikipedia Zero markets,
would be washed out by the relatively higher adoption of smartphones in
wealthier markets.
Please do let me know in case of a need for further clarification!
-Adam
On Tue, Sep 10, 2013 at 4:04 AM, Gerard Meijssen
<gerard.meijssen(a)gmail.com>wrote;wrote:
> Hoi,
> Is the Wikipedia-Zero traffic information part of the mobile statistics
or
> is it something completely separate thing?
> Thanks,
> GerardM
>
>
> On 10 September 2013 03:26, Adam Baso <abaso(a)wikimedia.org> wrote:
>
>> Wikipedia Zero traffic (IP address and MCC/MNC matching as expected)
> shows
>> in one day of requests (zero.tsv.log-20130907) roughly 7-9% of page
>> responses having a Content-Type response of "text/vnd.wap.wml",
presuming
>> field #11 (or index 10 if you're
indexing from 0) in
zero.tsv.log-<date>
> is
>> the Content-Type. Do I understand correctly that field as Content-Type?
>>
>> Thanks.
>> -Adam
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Sep 5, 2013 at 9:27 AM, Arthur Richards <
arichards(a)wikimedia.org
>>> wrote:
>>
>>> Would adding the accept header to the x-analytics header be worthwhile
>> for
>>> this?
>>> On Sep 5, 2013 4:16 AM, "Erik Zachte" <ezachte(a)wikimedia.org>
wrote:
>>>
>>>> For a breakdown per country, the higher the sampling rate the better,
> as
>>>> the data will become reliable even for smaller countries with a not
so
>>>> great adoption rate of
Wikipedia.
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: analytics-bounces(a)lists.wikimedia.org [mailto:
>>>> analytics-bounces(a)lists.wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of Max Semenik
>>>> Sent: Thursday, September 05, 2013 12:28 PM
>>>> To: Diederik van Liere
>>>> Cc: A mailing list for the Analytics Team at WMF and everybody who
has
>> an
>>>> interest in Wikipedia and analytics.; mobile-l; Wikimedia developers
>>>> Subject: Re: [Analytics] [WikimediaMobile] Mobile stats
>>>>
>>>> On 05.09.2013, 4:04 Diederik wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Heya,
>>>>> I would suggest to at least run it for a 7 day period so you capture
>>>>> at least the weekly time-trends, increasing the sample size should
>>>>> also be recommendable. We can help setup a udp-filter for this
> purpose
>>>>> as long as the data can be extracted from the user-agent string.
>>>>
>>>> Unfortunately, accept is no less important here.
>>>> So, to enumerate our requirements as a result of this thread:
>>>> * Sampling rate the same as wikistats (1/1000).
>>>> * No less than a week worth of data.
>>>> * User-agent:
>>>> * Accept:
>>>> * Country from GeoIP to determine the share of developing countries.
>>>> * Wiki to determine if some wikis are more dependant on WAP than
other
>> ones.
>>
>> Anything else?
>>
>> --
>> Best regards,
>> Max Semenik ([[User:MaxSem]])
>>
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