FYI and for those who missed this on wikitech-l. Designers in particular
(especially Kaity and Moiz who've previously discussed WP home page stuff)
check this out!
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From: Derric Atzrott <datzrott(a)alizeepathology.com>
Date: Tue, Apr 15, 2014 at 1:25 PM
Subject: [Wikitech-l] English Wikipedia Homepage Framework
To: Wikitech-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org
Hello,
I just wanted to make everyone aware of a discussion going on at the English
Wikipedia. They are discussing changing the Main Page, not visibly, but
just
changing the page from a table based layout to one that is a little bit more
modern. The discussion can be found here:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Main_Page#Proposal_to_implement_new_fram…
_for_main_page
One of the things that came up during the discussion was testing the
framework
with a wide variety of browsers. A lot of the opposition to it that I
could see
came from the lack of testing. I feel like I remember us discussing here
previously a framework for testing stuff across many browsers. If we have
something of the like here, I think that it could be well deployed to help
them
out. No reason for them to re-invent the wheel or do all of the testing
manually.
Thank you,
Derric Atzrott
Computer Specialist
Alizee Pathology
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I had a chat with Timo in person about this patch:
https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/111250
He still feels strongly that adding this to core in a generic blob
form is not very helpful and adding it to core without a standard
JavaScript templating library would also be an incomplete job.
As a result, it seems the best way forward might me to move the code
that MobileFrontend is using for this into an extension
MediaWikiTemplates that both Flow and MobileFrontend can depend on.
We'll make a few modifications to it so it supports both template
libraries - Hogan and Handlebars.
This would allow code sharing and iteration on the code and hopefully
will lend itself nicely as a shared repository where we can experiment
with different templating languages.
Thoughts?
Here's a link to a pdf showing designs for reference
tooltips<https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Reference-tooltips-Apr.pdf>.
The 1st 3 pages show desktop designs with different options.
*Page 1* If we can parse a reference and determine if it includes a common
template, we can indicate with an icon which type it is (book, web, news...)
If we can determine the title parameter, we can highlight or bold that in
the reference so its more readable.
We could also pull the lead image if there's a wikipedia article linked in
the ref.
*Page 2 *If we don't want to bother with all that, the formatting isn't
changed.
*Page 3* If we parse the template type and each of the parameters. We can
totally reformat the reference to show title, source, and date, then show
other parameters with labels if a user taps to expand. This is the cleanest
and most readable, but may take more work.
*Page 4 *Showing simple version in app context.
What do you think, should we show image thumbnails? Can we parse the
templates and all parameters?
If you're interested there's more background on the design on
mediawiki<https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Reference_readability>
.
Thanks!
Kaity
Hi,
I am note sure where to ask, so sending here. Please let me know if there
is a better place. :)
I vaguely remember http://wikimediafoundation.org/ having a mobile site,
but when I visit it from an Android or iOS device, desktop site opens. I
also vaguely remember there was a "mobile site" link at the home page, but
I do not see it now.
If I visit http://m.wikimediafoundation.org/ desktop home page opens, or at
least I see no difference.
I am doing something wrong?
Željko
FYI 2, will email different list in follow-up.
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From: Adam Baso <abaso(a)wikimedia.org>
Date: Thu, Apr 10, 2014 at 2:43 PM
Subject: Re: [Wikitech-l] Mobile Operator IP Drift
To: Wikimedia developers <wikitech-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org>
Thanks for catching that! For the follow-up "non-technical" community we'll
plan to email wikimedia-l (broader discussion) instead of
wikimediannounce-l (low volume non-technical).
On Thu, Apr 10, 2014 at 1:14 PM, K. Peachey <p858snake(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> On 11 April 2014 05:53, Adam Baso <abaso(a)wikimedia.org> wrote:
>
> > Your feedback is welcome here on wikitech-l. Next week we'd like to move
> > the discussion to the wikimediaannounce-l mailing list, but we wanted to
> > first cover it on this main developer list.
> >
>
> Announce-l isn't a discussion list, it forwards everything to wikimedia-l
> (or whatever that list is called) which isn't technical at all. Annouce-l
> shouldn't be used for Announcements.
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FYI
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From: Adam Baso <abaso(a)wikimedia.org>
Date: Thu, Apr 10, 2014 at 12:53 PM
Subject: Mobile Operator IP Drift
To: Wikimedia developers <wikitech-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org>
I emailed mobile-l about this, now I'm moving this discussion to
wikitech-l. Rather than repeat myself, here's the thread to read:
http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/mobile-l/2014-April/006884.html
Your feedback is welcome here on wikitech-l. Next week we'd like to move
the discussion to the wikimediaannounce-l mailing list, but we wanted to
first cover it on this main developer list.
Thanks.
-Adam