Hi Mariya,

I think those lists should be moved to pages titled "Consulting" (or "Consultants"), "Hosting", etc. - clearly the large response to the original "MediaWiki vendor" page indicated a need for this kind of listing. Yes, the "Jobs" page was closed due to sensitivities, but I think a simple listing of consulting companies, or wiki farms, etc. is much less issue-prone than a listing of specific MediaWiki-related jobs. A disclaimer at the top, saying that such a listing does not constitute an endorsement, should be enough to cover it, I think.

-Yaron

On Mon, Feb 4, 2013 at 11:03 AM, Mariya Nedelcheva Miteva <mariya.miteva@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi Ad, 

The vendors page is move to here : 
http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Third-party_MediaWiki_users_discussion/Contacted_by_Mitevam

Some people on the list were not comfortable with the term "vendor" as they don't use MW commercially, so third-party users seemed to be a better name. Let me know if you have suggestions on how to make the list more useful. 

I cannot create a list that looks like advertisement and promotion of vendors as it was discussed and decided in the past that no companies or individual developers can be promoted or endorsed on mediawiki.org. You can see the discussion here: 
http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Talk:Jobs/Archive
 
Again, let me know if you have ideas on how the list would be more useful. I would gladly work on that. 

Mariya



On Fri, Feb 1, 2013 at 6:32 PM, Ad Strack van Schijndel <ad.strackvanschijndel@gmail.com> wrote:
By the way Mariya, why have the lists of vendors and consultants vanished?
Shouldn't the vendors page be re-created with only vendors? Discussion on the discussion page and sites using MW on that page?

Ad

Shouldn't the vendors page consist
On 1 februari 2013, at 17:03, Mariya Nedelcheva Miteva <mariya.miteva@gmail.com> wrote:

> This is a great idea, Yury, and it's already producing some collaboration! I would encourage everyone to share about what they do as well. Conversation is always good. You never know what can come out of it!
>
> Mariya
>
> On Tue, Jan 29, 2013 at 10:23 AM, Yury Katkov <katkov.juriy@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Tue, Jan 29, 2013 at 8:02 AM, Jack Eapen C <jackec@suntecgroup.com> wrote:
> Hi Yury,
>
>
>
> It would be good to know, what is the purpose of the write up you are asking for?
>
> The short answer is that I want to know more about the MediaWiki companies for possible cooperation and collaboration. I'm preparing the write-up myself, obviously.
> 1) It's a good way to say hello - "you are what you do".  There are some companies around us but not many of them have the portfolio. Maybe we're working in the similar area and can provide each other services, outsource some tasks to each other, re-use the code, discuss the business models. Why not to post these success stories on mw.org to advertise yourself and to make the market bigger and bigger?
> 2) The experience exchange is always good. Maybe the story about the say educational wiki for the Hungarian school will inspire us to make similar project for the Russian school?
> 3) the answers to some questions can be interesting per se: e.g. if you have the open repository of your extensions and skin, I will try them with pleasure. Maybe somebody will see that they can provide their solutions, that are more sophisticated.
>
>
> Regards,
>
>
>
> Jack
>
>
>
> From: mediawiki-enterprise-bounces@lists.wikimedia.org [mailto:mediawiki-enterprise-bounces@lists.wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of Yury Katkov
> Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2013 1:48 AM
> To: mediawiki-enterprise@lists.wikimedia.org
> Subject: [Mediawiki-enterprise] Your success stories?
>
>
>
> Hi guys!
>
>
>
> Can anybody tell about the success story you've had with MediaWiki?
>
> If you're not a good writer, here is the list of interesting questions. Of course you can describe your story without looking at them.
>
>
>
> - What was the project about?
>
> - Who was the customer? Was it an open project?
>
> - What the community looked like? Where those people on the wiki came from?
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> - Why you've chosen MediaWiki and not another solution?
>
> - Did you program anything additional for MediaWiki, did you integrate with some other services and applications?
>
> - Or maybe you've elaborated some tricky methodology?
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> - How did the project change the life of your customer?
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> - Was the community motivated? How active they were?
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> - Did you provide any kind of support and consulting?
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> - Maybe you've provided admins, moderators, facilitators? How did you teach them?
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> - Did you have any trainings?
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> - Anything about money? $-)
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> - What obstacles and difficulties have you faced?
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> - How much time did you spend on a different stages of your project?
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> - Do you have any open results? The project itself, the skins, extensions, papers, articles, photos of the happy users?
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> - What have you learnt from the project?
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> - In general: was it worth it?
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>
>
> Cheers,
>
> Yury Katkov, WikiVote
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