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Re: Proposal to close Malagasy Wikibooks (MF-Warburg) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2018 16:28:31 +0100 From: MarcoAurelio To: Wikimedia Foundation Language Committee Subject: Re: [Langcom] Proposal to close Malagasy Wikibooks Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" We can lock and leave the "content" there and inform people that if they wish to contribute further they can start a test project on the Incubator if that's okay. 2018-03-21 15:33 GMT+01:00 Gerard Meijssen : > Hoi, > Having a project locked is different from having it moved to Incubator.. I > do not object to the project being locked. > Thanks, > Gerard > > On 21 March 2018 at 14:39, MarcoAurelio wrote: > >> Issue is that we're serving a project for just 15 pages. I'd argue that >> is, indeed, absence of content since the wiki creation. Combined with no >> users interested in the project, etc., the best we can do, IMHO, is to lock >> the project and return it back to Incubator. Respectfully submitted, MA. >> >> 2018-03-20 7:38 GMT+01:00 Gerard Meijssen : >> >>> Hoi, >>> As there is nothing new, no change in the maintenance needed for this >>> particular project I see his point but I do not see the need. >>> Thanks, >>> GerardM >>> >>> On 19 March 2018 at 23:54, Steven White wrote: >>> >>>> Please see Proposals for closing projects/Closure of Malagasy Wikibooks >>>> on >>>> Meta. >>>> >>>> >>>> The general argument here is that this project has been dormant for >>>> about ten years, and should be closed. There is not a vandalism problem on >>>> the project, and indeed I argued that LangCom's current position is that it >>>> is better to leave dormant projects alone than to close them and move them >>>> to Incubator. >>>> >>>> >>>> User:MarcoAurelio, a steward who has posted here occasionally, argues >>>> that it's one more dormant project for stewards and global sysops to watch, >>>> and that in his view, it would be better to close this project. Two people >>>> in the community have responded: one user who really the only material >>>> contributor in the last ten years, along with an active sysop from Malagasy >>>> Wikipedia. Both effectively take the position that they're OK either way. >>>> >>>> >>>> I would personally argue against closing, because I don't see this as >>>> being a special case, and I'm concerned that it would open the doors to >>>> many more requests to close small projects. But I'd like to hear some >>>> other opinions about this. >>>> >>>> >>>> Steven >>>> >>>> >>>> Sent from Outlook >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Langcom mailing list >>>> Langcom@lists.wikimedia.org >>>> https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Flists.wikimedia.org%2Fmailman%2Flistinfo%2Flangcom&data=02%7C01%7C%7C56447d3461e94049936808d58f50b425%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636572499132379731&sdata=efpUXTWnH0O4EAzYHaKgFabyCjxMPvfCktZCKKOviPY%3D&reserved=0 >>>> >>>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Langcom mailing list >>> Langcom@lists.wikimedia.org >>> https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Flists.wikimedia.org%2Fmailman%2Flistinfo%2Flangcom&data=02%7C01%7C%7C56447d3461e94049936808d58f50b425%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636572499132379731&sdata=efpUXTWnH0O4EAzYHaKgFabyCjxMPvfCktZCKKOviPY%3D&reserved=0 >>> >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Langcom mailing list >> Langcom@lists.wikimedia.org >> https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Flists.wikimedia.org%2Fmailman%2Flistinfo%2Flangcom&data=02%7C01%7C%7C56447d3461e94049936808d58f50b425%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636572499132379731&sdata=efpUXTWnH0O4EAzYHaKgFabyCjxMPvfCktZCKKOviPY%3D&reserved=0 >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > Langcom mailing list > Langcom@lists.wikimedia.org > https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Flists.wikimedia.org%2Fmailman%2Flistinfo%2Flangcom&data=02%7C01%7C%7C56447d3461e94049936808d58f50b425%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636572499132379731&sdata=efpUXTWnH0O4EAzYHaKgFabyCjxMPvfCktZCKKOviPY%3D&reserved=0 > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2018 17:52:18 +0100 From: Gerard Meijssen To: Wikimedia Foundation Language Committee Subject: Re: [Langcom] Proposal to close Malagasy Wikibooks Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Hoi, When it is about a Wikibooks, I do not need a period in the Incubator. As far as I am concerned, they can just move forward. Thanks, GerardM On 21 March 2018 at 16:28, MarcoAurelio wrote: > We can lock and leave the "content" there and inform people that if they > wish to contribute further they can start a test project on the Incubator > if that's okay. > > 2018-03-21 15:33 GMT+01:00 Gerard Meijssen : > >> Hoi, >> Having a project locked is different from having it moved to Incubator.. >> I do not object to the project being locked. >> Thanks, >> Gerard >> >> On 21 March 2018 at 14:39, MarcoAurelio wrote: >> >>> Issue is that we're serving a project for just 15 pages. I'd argue that >>> is, indeed, absence of content since the wiki creation. Combined with no >>> users interested in the project, etc., the best we can do, IMHO, is to lock >>> the project and return it back to Incubator. Respectfully submitted, MA. >>> >>> 2018-03-20 7:38 GMT+01:00 Gerard Meijssen : >>> >>>> Hoi, >>>> As there is nothing new, no change in the maintenance needed for this >>>> particular project I see his point but I do not see the need. >>>> Thanks, >>>> GerardM >>>> >>>> On 19 March 2018 at 23:54, Steven White wrote: >>>> >>>>> Please see Proposals for closing projects/Closure of Malagasy >>>>> Wikibooks >>>>> on >>>>> Meta. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> The general argument here is that this project has been dormant for >>>>> about ten years, and should be closed. There is not a vandalism problem on >>>>> the project, and indeed I argued that LangCom's current position is that it >>>>> is better to leave dormant projects alone than to close them and move them >>>>> to Incubator. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> User:MarcoAurelio, a steward who has posted here occasionally, argues >>>>> that it's one more dormant project for stewards and global sysops to watch, >>>>> and that in his view, it would be better to close this project. Two people >>>>> in the community have responded: one user who really the only material >>>>> contributor in the last ten years, along with an active sysop from Malagasy >>>>> Wikipedia. Both effectively take the position that they're OK either way. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> I would personally argue against closing, because I don't see this as >>>>> being a special case, and I'm concerned that it would open the doors to >>>>> many more requests to close small projects. But I'd like to hear some >>>>> other opinions about this. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Steven >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Sent from Outlook >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Langcom mailing list >>>>> Langcom@lists.wikimedia.org >>>>> https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Flists.wikimedia.org%2Fmailman%2Flistinfo%2Flangcom&data=02%7C01%7C%7C56447d3461e94049936808d58f50b425%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636572499132379731&sdata=efpUXTWnH0O4EAzYHaKgFabyCjxMPvfCktZCKKOviPY%3D&reserved=0 >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Langcom mailing list >>>> Langcom@lists.wikimedia.org >>>> https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Flists.wikimedia.org%2Fmailman%2Flistinfo%2Flangcom&data=02%7C01%7C%7C56447d3461e94049936808d58f50b425%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636572499132379731&sdata=efpUXTWnH0O4EAzYHaKgFabyCjxMPvfCktZCKKOviPY%3D&reserved=0 >>>> >>>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Langcom mailing list >>> Langcom@lists.wikimedia.org >>> https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Flists.wikimedia.org%2Fmailman%2Flistinfo%2Flangcom&data=02%7C01%7C%7C56447d3461e94049936808d58f50b425%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636572499132379731&sdata=efpUXTWnH0O4EAzYHaKgFabyCjxMPvfCktZCKKOviPY%3D&reserved=0 >>> >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Langcom mailing list >> Langcom@lists.wikimedia.org >> https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Flists.wikimedia.org%2Fmailman%2Flistinfo%2Flangcom&data=02%7C01%7C%7C56447d3461e94049936808d58f50b425%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636572499132379731&sdata=efpUXTWnH0O4EAzYHaKgFabyCjxMPvfCktZCKKOviPY%3D&reserved=0 >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > Langcom mailing list > Langcom@lists.wikimedia.org > https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Flists.wikimedia.org%2Fmailman%2Flistinfo%2Flangcom&data=02%7C01%7C%7C56447d3461e94049936808d58f50b425%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636572499132379731&sdata=efpUXTWnH0O4EAzYHaKgFabyCjxMPvfCktZCKKOviPY%3D&reserved=0 > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2018 18:25:03 +0100 From: MF-Warburg To: Wikimedia Foundation Language Committee Subject: Re: [Langcom] Proposal to close Malagasy Wikibooks Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Do you even know what you are talking about? Am 21.03.2018 5:52 nachm. schrieb "Gerard Meijssen" < gerard.meijssen@gmail.com>: > Hoi, > When it is about a Wikibooks, I do not need a period in the Incubator. As > far as I am concerned, they can just move forward. > Thanks, > GerardM > > On 21 March 2018 at 16:28, MarcoAurelio wrote: > >> We can lock and leave the "content" there and inform people that if they >> wish to contribute further they can start a test project on the Incubator >> if that's okay. >> >> 2018-03-21 15:33 GMT+01:00 Gerard Meijssen : >> >>> Hoi, >>> Having a project locked is different from having it moved to Incubator.. >>> I do not object to the project being locked. >>> Thanks, >>> Gerard >>> >>> On 21 March 2018 at 14:39, MarcoAurelio wrote: >>> >>>> Issue is that we're serving a project for just 15 pages. I'd argue that >>>> is, indeed, absence of content since the wiki creation. Combined with no >>>> users interested in the project, etc., the best we can do, IMHO, is to lock >>>> the project and return it back to Incubator. Respectfully submitted, MA. >>>> >>>> 2018-03-20 7:38 GMT+01:00 Gerard Meijssen : >>>> >>>>> Hoi, >>>>> As there is nothing new, no change in the maintenance needed for this >>>>> particular project I see his point but I do not see the need. >>>>> Thanks, >>>>> GerardM >>>>> >>>>> On 19 March 2018 at 23:54, Steven White >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Please see Proposals for closing projects/Closure of Malagasy >>>>>> Wikibooks >>>>>> on >>>>>> Meta. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> The general argument here is that this project has been dormant for >>>>>> about ten years, and should be closed. There is not a vandalism problem on >>>>>> the project, and indeed I argued that LangCom's current position is that it >>>>>> is better to leave dormant projects alone than to close them and move them >>>>>> to Incubator. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> User:MarcoAurelio, a steward who has posted here occasionally, argues >>>>>> that it's one more dormant project for stewards and global sysops to watch, >>>>>> and that in his view, it would be better to close this project. Two people >>>>>> in the community have responded: one user who really the only material >>>>>> contributor in the last ten years, along with an active sysop from Malagasy >>>>>> Wikipedia. Both effectively take the position that they're OK either way. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> I would personally argue against closing, because I don't see this as >>>>>> being a special case, and I'm concerned that it would open the doors to >>>>>> many more requests to close small projects. But I'd like to hear some >>>>>> other opinions about this. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Steven >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Sent from Outlook >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> Langcom mailing list >>>>>> Langcom@lists.wikimedia.org >>>>>> https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Flists.wikimedia.org%2Fmailman%2Flistinfo%2Flangcom&data=02%7C01%7C%7C56447d3461e94049936808d58f50b425%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636572499132379731&sdata=efpUXTWnH0O4EAzYHaKgFabyCjxMPvfCktZCKKOviPY%3D&reserved=0 >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Langcom mailing list >>>>> Langcom@lists.wikimedia.org >>>>> https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Flists.wikimedia.org%2Fmailman%2Flistinfo%2Flangcom&data=02%7C01%7C%7C56447d3461e94049936808d58f50b425%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636572499132379731&sdata=efpUXTWnH0O4EAzYHaKgFabyCjxMPvfCktZCKKOviPY%3D&reserved=0 >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Langcom mailing list >>>> Langcom@lists.wikimedia.org >>>> https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Flists.wikimedia.org%2Fmailman%2Flistinfo%2Flangcom&data=02%7C01%7C%7C56447d3461e94049936808d58f50b425%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636572499132379731&sdata=efpUXTWnH0O4EAzYHaKgFabyCjxMPvfCktZCKKOviPY%3D&reserved=0 >>>> >>>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Langcom mailing list >>> Langcom@lists.wikimedia.org >>> https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Flists.wikimedia.org%2Fmailman%2Flistinfo%2Flangcom&data=02%7C01%7C%7C56447d3461e94049936808d58f50b425%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636572499132379731&sdata=efpUXTWnH0O4EAzYHaKgFabyCjxMPvfCktZCKKOviPY%3D&reserved=0 >>> >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Langcom mailing list >> Langcom@lists.wikimedia.org >> https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Flists.wikimedia.org%2Fmailman%2Flistinfo%2Flangcom&data=02%7C01%7C%7C56447d3461e94049936808d58f50b425%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636572499132379731&sdata=efpUXTWnH0O4EAzYHaKgFabyCjxMPvfCktZCKKOviPY%3D&reserved=0 >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > Langcom mailing list > Langcom@lists.wikimedia.org > https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Flists.wikimedia.org%2Fmailman%2Flistinfo%2Flangcom&data=02%7C01%7C%7C56447d3461e94049936808d58f50b425%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636572499132379731&sdata=efpUXTWnH0O4EAzYHaKgFabyCjxMPvfCktZCKKOviPY%3D&reserved=0 > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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