On Sat, Feb 25, 2012 at 8:34 AM, Pete Forsyth <peteforsyth@gmail.com> wrote:
Agreed -- excellent work, Laura and Bidgee!


:)  They all looked very pretty on the DYK nomination page with a picture for every one.  Big group effort with help from a number of guys in WM-AU including Hawkeye7, Sp33dyphil, and John Vandenberg.

(And because my iPhone was suffering a severe case of envy of Bidgee's camera, I now have a camera.  If there are any Australian women or Australian guys who want to photograph women, I highly encourage you to take advantage of http://www.wikimedia.org.au/wiki/Proposal:Camera_equipment_program , Wikimedia Australia's camera equipment grant.)

At the same time that we did the water polo player, we also took pictures of two female Paralympic swimmers and brought one of their articles to DYK, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Did_you_know_nominations/Teigan_Van_Roosmalen .  (The other already had been there.  The athlete had also donated a much higher quality image of herself about three days before.  Fun conversation.   Ellie Cole uses Wikipedia to find out more about Canberra.)


 
On case studies -- one person who has self-documented extensively on gaining access to public figures for photos is David Shankbone. But he's blogged about tons of things, so it will take a little work to dig through and find the best reflective posts on that subject.

Had a conversation about him.  As I understand it, he faced some weird goofy pressure from the Commons community because he also does commercial photography.  Thus, some people disliked him.  Commons can have the weird relationship like Wikipedia does related to people who kind of sort of get paid, but not exactly for what you see.



It would be awesome to explore the kinds of techniques various people have used to get this kind of access! A good project for the GLAM portal or other outreach pages.

Australian sport on the national level is really helped out by our GLAM project at http://outreach.wikimedia.org/wiki/HOPAU .  This has been extensively documented in the GLAM newsletter.  Coupled with efforts to take every single 2011/2012 Canberra Capital player article to DYK and having taken pictures at a game and this being shared inside the Australian sport community… it makes it much easier for us to ask to get pictures, get access, talk to people about getting permissions for images to be shared or getting permission to take photographs.  (I talked to a memorial about photography and images, and could cite the sport situations as relevant in terms of getting institutional investment, fair use inside Australia, how it impacts on their ability to commercialise their pictures, how photography events can work.  It builds bridges.)  This case though was a lot of people inside Australian Water Polo had heard about the GLAM project and heard about the Capitals work (done close to the time of a a general wiki conference in Canberra)… and yeah. :)  Once you get one, connected organisations are easier.

Probably works better in places with smaller scale and where people often share the same building. :)  I'm hoping we can get the Australian women's national basketball team in May.  Not sure if the women's hockey is going to be available to us just because of where they do their training camps.  Sadly, only three Australian women's teams qualified for the Olympics. :(  Volleyball and soccer did not. :(

Sincerely,
Laura Hale

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