Subject: Re: [Gendergap] Moderation and the future of
Gendergap-L
Re: the below, yes, i was
blocked in a situation I thought was biased compared to
other blocks I've seen. (I didn't mention that originally it
was a six month block but the community of mostly guys
thought that was grossly unfair and it was reduced to two
weeks.)
However, in general wikipedia is not half as bad as the
Men's rights site you mentioned. And in Wikipedia there are
"Community Sanctions" on too much conflict in men's rights
areas. In fact we just had some problems with an individual
with that bias and he was reminded of the sanctions and was
stopped.
In general women tend to avoid a lot of issues in the larger
world because we don't like conflict. And that's
understandable given that when guys do it with each other
its considered a team sport. But when women jump in the
middle, even if they know the rules (which we don't always),
they usually are going to be given a harder time, expected
to work harder and do better to get half the respect.
That's the nature of the reality we are trying to change
throughout the world and wikipedia is just one part of that
larger world.
We don't have to accept all the rules but we can't change
them unless we have some engagement. Even if the engagement
is "these rules are male-created and reflect male
values/attitudes/etc. and we want and equal say in creating
the rules."
To understand Wikipedia dispute resolution you really have
to study this page:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Dispute_resolution
Except in the worst cases of abuse, you don't need to go to
ANI. When the problem is guys ignoring you or reverting you
too much or whatever it is they are doing cause they think
they can get away with it (including if that reason is that
you are female), there are a variety of options. I've used
them all at different times, with more or less success
depending on circumstances.
CM