Great; thank you, LeAnna. 

I wish I could think of a budget for Accuracy Review. It would really help if someone from WEF would co-mentor it. LeAnna, would you like to co-mentor, or do you know anyone at Wiki Ed who would? I have to reach out to the Simple English Wikipedia and inform them I am asking WEF to help make a bot for them. Luckily, my experience with up-goer five talk, LOGLAN, Freudenthal's 1960 LINCOS, and English should make that easy. If you want to co-mentor, you can try that, or tell me to do it as you prefer.

Would it be okay to ask you to reach out to the Revision Scoring as a Service people and ask them, if you paid people to score revisions, how much you should offer? Although, it's a perfectly legitimate question to ask if that would put their (WMF's) fair harbor provisions at risk. I doubt it would, so I'll ignore the possibility for now. Please correct me if I'm wrong. If I had to guess at the starting amount, it would be $20 per hour plus pension and benefits. I don't know if that's right so I would love to hear other opinions.

I note that you can select a 50% ratio, and potentially more women than men, if you can amortize reparations. I have also been trying to work on attracting female editors within the strict confines of improving the encyclopedia. I predict we will have gender equality among editors by total attention by 2025 without accuracy review and by 2023 with it, but please don't put that in the advantages column until I've double checked it.

Best regards,
James

On Friday, April 17, 2015, LiAnna Davis <lianna@wikiedu.org> wrote:
Wiki Ed has no plans to apply for a grant for the Inspire campaign -- as an independent 501(c)3 nonprofit, we have other funding opportunities to support our programs that tackle the gender gap, and we don't want to compete for movement funds in this area with other groups who have a less well-developed fundraising capability than we do. 

But we obviously support the work to close the gender gap -- we've steadily maintained higher than 60% female student editors (68% last term! http://wikiedu.org/blog/2015/02/05/gender-gap-68-percent/), and our partnership with the National Women's Studies Association (http://www.nwsa.org/content.asp?pl=17&contentid=111) is specifically targeting filling content gaps related to the gender gap.

And a housekeeping note -- the wikiedu.org wiki you linked to is our office wiki, which contains some sensitive information, so access is limited to Wiki Ed staff. But you can track more information about our programs in our monthly reports:
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wiki_Education_Foundation#Monthly_reports

Specifically related to the Outreach Pilot you mentioned, more information on the pilot (beyond what's said in each monthly report) is available in these blog posts:
http://wikiedu.org/blog/category/outreach-program/

LiAnna

On Fri, Apr 17, 2015 at 11:05 AM, James Salsman <jsalsman@gmail.com> wrote:
Thank you, Samir!

I need to see updates at

https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:IEG/Revision_scoring_as_a_service/Timeline

before I can know what to write. Does the WEF use the WMF's Meta
IdeaLab for grants, too?

Also, I need a login to be able to read
http://wikiedu.org/wiki/index.php?title=Outreach_Pilot

Would you please send me a login to that wiki? I will happily set up a
page with a proposal to pay people to do revision scoring. I would
also like to propose paying people to do

 https://www.mediawiki.org/w/index.php?title=Accuracy_review

which is like revision scoring, but targeted to things that are most
likely to be wrong, make the most difference when they're wrong,
confuse people when they're wrong, etc. Revision scoring also does
this, but in a potentially less targeted fashion. There may also be a
happier medium between the two approaches, but it seems unlikely that
people will be able to figure out what the space of mediums is without
constructing the endpoints.

Best regards,
James

On Mon, Apr 13, 2015 at 5:22 AM, Samir Elsharbaty
<selsharbaty@wikimedia.org> wrote:
> Hello everyone,
>
> First, thank you, James for sharing and reviving interest in revision
> scoring. It is really an important aspect of education programs but
> unfortunately not many of the program volunteers around the world paid much
> attention to it before. I would also like to thank Alex Stinson for sharing
> that inspire campaign grant proposal with us. He was right in his
> endorsement mentioning the Wiki Education Foundation as they take care
> of/manage Wikipedia Education Program in the US and Canada. They would be
> the best people to contact concerning Wikipedia education activities there.
>
> It was great that you thought of IdeaLab, James! We always say "Be bold"
> which means that it would be better to see your ideas expressed on wiki by
> your hands, so, please be bold, start the IdeaLab page and share the link
> with us.
>
> Please don't hesitate to contact me with any questions you may have.
>
> Sincerely,
>
> Samir
>
> On Fri, Apr 10, 2015 at 9:21 AM, Charles Matthews
> <charles.r.matthews@ntlworld.com> wrote:
>>
>> On 10 April 2015 at 07:53, Alex Stinson <sadads@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> What's important about the coalition: he is going to be involving a
>>> number of people active in the Digital Humanities: a field that has
>>> overlapping interests and skills that would be useful for the Wikipedia
>>> Education program, but in which we are only starting to see Wikipedia
>>> approached as a tool of interest.
>>
>>
>> I would agree with Alex here. Digital Humanities (DH) means different
>> things to different people, but combines "data led" with "reaches the parts
>> others don't" for Wikimedia in an enticing way. It's a big discussion. Just
>> one point: it helps to think of sister projects (Commons, Wikisource,
>> Wikidata) coming together in the offering.
>>
>> Charles
>>
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