On Mon, Jan 6, 2014 at 2:47 PM, S Page <spage@wikimedia.org> wrote:
On Mon, Jan 6, 2014 at 2:22 PM, Juliusz Gonera <jgonera@wikimedia.org> wrote:
On 01/06/2014 11:01 PM, S Page wrote:
When quiet buttons are colored by default, what color is it?  If it's the same as the second row of https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Foundation_Design/Agora_Control_Library#Buttons , then the button has no mouseover state, so we've improved mobile and degraded desktop.

May didn't mention it here, but I remember her saying that the hover state color of quiet links should be like the active background color of normal buttons. Is this correct, May?

But the active color is already using the active background color. If you make the hover use it too then we have a hover state but nothing happens on click.
There's a best-selling book about distinguishing hover/active/disabled/toggled,  "50 Shades of Grey"  :)


The bevel color when you hover over a button will be the hover state color of the quiet buttons. I have software issues on my side the entire day, hopefully it gets fixed next day so I can give you exact values of the bevel colors (or if Jared has it at hand) and then make changes to https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Foundation_Design/Agora_Control_Library#Buttons

 
So we have a third kind of buttons as S said?

* normal
* quiet
* quiet with colors <- new --

I'm confused too. May, are there quiet buttons that start gray and change color when you mouseover-click them, as shown in https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Foundation_Design/Agora_Control_Library#Buttons ?


Let me get my software running again so I can ease your confusion here. 
 
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=S Page  Features engineer